SimonGleinert
Dauer-User
- 464
Hallo Leute...
Ich habe folgendes Problem:
Vieles was von Samsung oder den Rom-Devs standartmässig drauf ist, brauch ich nicht, oder will ich einfach nicht, da ich es entweder nicht benötige, oder durch -in meinen Augen bessere- Apps ersetze (beispiel: sammy Tastatur durch google Tastatur, TW MP3-Player durch PowerAmp, TW Video-Player durch MX Player Pro usw.)
Folglich entferne ich die Apps auch dafür aus dem System, denn wenn ich sie sowieso nicht nutze, brauchen davon auch keine eventuellen Hintergrudprozesse laufen.
Ich hab schon zu Zeiten vom s3 damit angefangen, mein eigenes Debloat-Script zu schreiben, habs dann für's s4 angepasst, bis ich dann hier her zum Note3 gewechselt bin.
Mit 4.3 lief es auch einwandfrei, mit 4.4.2 funktioniert es auch, allerdings funktioniert dann die automatische Bildschirmdrehung nicht mehr und ich komm einfach nicht dahinter, welche App dafür verantwortlich ist
Flash ich ne Rom (aktuell bin ich auf Bobcat) funktioniert die automatische Bildschirmdrehung...
Flashe ich mein Debloatscript, funktioniet die automatische Bildschirmdrehung nicht
Spiele ich dann wieder alles zurück, was ich entfernt habe, funktioniert sie hingegen wieder!
Hier ist mal ein Auszug, von dem was ich alles entferne und vielleicht kann mir ja einer von euch dabei helfen, was es sein könnte, denn alles einzeln durchzugehen, wäre schon recht mühselig
Ich habe folgendes Problem:
Vieles was von Samsung oder den Rom-Devs standartmässig drauf ist, brauch ich nicht, oder will ich einfach nicht, da ich es entweder nicht benötige, oder durch -in meinen Augen bessere- Apps ersetze (beispiel: sammy Tastatur durch google Tastatur, TW MP3-Player durch PowerAmp, TW Video-Player durch MX Player Pro usw.)
Folglich entferne ich die Apps auch dafür aus dem System, denn wenn ich sie sowieso nicht nutze, brauchen davon auch keine eventuellen Hintergrudprozesse laufen.
Ich hab schon zu Zeiten vom s3 damit angefangen, mein eigenes Debloat-Script zu schreiben, habs dann für's s4 angepasst, bis ich dann hier her zum Note3 gewechselt bin.
Mit 4.3 lief es auch einwandfrei, mit 4.4.2 funktioniert es auch, allerdings funktioniert dann die automatische Bildschirmdrehung nicht mehr und ich komm einfach nicht dahinter, welche App dafür verantwortlich ist
Flash ich ne Rom (aktuell bin ich auf Bobcat) funktioniert die automatische Bildschirmdrehung...
Flashe ich mein Debloatscript, funktioniet die automatische Bildschirmdrehung nicht
Spiele ich dann wieder alles zurück, was ich entfernt habe, funktioniert sie hingegen wieder!
Hier ist mal ein Auszug, von dem was ich alles entferne und vielleicht kann mir ja einer von euch dabei helfen, was es sein könnte, denn alles einzeln durchzugehen, wäre schon recht mühselig
Code:
ui_print("~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~");
ui_print("Removing /apps...");
ui_print("~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~");
#===
# A
#===
delete("/system/app/AccuweatherPhone2013.apk");
delete("/system/app/AirCommander_v1.0.apk");
delete("/system/app/AlarmWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/AllShareCastPlayer.apk");
delete("/system/app/AllshareControlShare.apk");
delete("/system/app/AllshareFileShare.apk");
delete("/system/app/AllshareFileShareClient.apk");
delete("/system/app/AllshareFileShareServer.apk");
delete("/system/AllshareMediaServer.apk");
delete("/system/AllshareMediaShare.apk");
delete("/system/app/AnimatedScene.apk");
delete("/system/app/AnimatedScene_fhd.apk");
delete("/system/app/AntHalService.apk");
delete("/system/app/ANTPlusPlugins.apk");
delete("/system/app/ANTRadioService.apk");
delete("/system/app/AsusWeather.apk");
delete("/system/app/at.jclehner.appopsxposed.apk");
#===
# B
#===
delete("/system/app/BasicDreams.apk");
delete("/system/app/BeamService.apk");
delete("/system/app/Bloomberg.apk");
delete("/system/app/BluetoothTest.apk");
delete("/system/app/Blurb.apk");
delete("/system/app/Books.apk");
# C
#===
delete("/system/app/ChatON_MARKET.apk");
delete("/system/app/Chrome.apk");
delete("/system/app/ColorBlind.apk");
delete("/system/app/com.estrongs.android.pop.apk");
delete("/system/app/com.fab.md5.apk");
delete("/system/app/com.mirko.csr.apk");
delete("/system/app/com.mohammadag.sviewverificationbypasser.apk");
delete("/system/app/com.monotype.android.font.kapp.SegoeUI-1-v1.0.apk");
delete("/system/app/com.nolanlawson.logcat.apk");
delete("/system/app/com.otaupdater.apk");
delete("/system/app/com.sec.android.app.translator-278-v1.0.18.apk");
delete("/system/app/com.sec.android.iap-2.apk");
delete("/system/app/com.sec.ricky310711.samsungtool.apk");
delete("/system/app/com.wanam.apk");
#===
# D
#=== delete("/system/app/de.j4velin.notificationToggle.apk");
app/de.robv.android.xposed.installer.apk");
app/de.robv.android.xposed.mods.appsettings.apk");
delete("/system/app/DigitalClock.apk");
app/DirectConnect.apk");
app/DocumentsUI.apk");
delete("/system/app/Drive.apk");
app/Dropbox.apk");
delete("/system/app/DualClockDigital.apk");
#===
# E
#===
delete("/system/app/EasyFavoritesContactsWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/EasyOneHand.apk");
delete("/system/app/EasySettings.apk");
delete("/system/app/ELMAgent.apk");
delete("/system/app/Evernote.apk");
delete("/system/app/Evernote_H.apk");
#===
# F
#===
delete("/system/app/FactoryCamera_FB.apk");
delete("/system/app/Flipboard.apk");
#===
# G
#===
delete("/system/app/GearManagerStub.apk");
delete("/system/app/GenieWidget_1.3.11.apk");
delete("/system/app/GMS_Maps.apk");
delete("/system/app/GoogleCalendarSyncAdapter.apk");
delete("/system/app/GoogleSearchWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/GoogleSearchWidget2.apk");
#===
# H
#===
#===
# I
#===
delete("/system/app/IdeaSketch_H.apk");
delete("/system/app/ind.fem.black.xposed.mods-1.apk");
delete("/system/app/InteractiveKeyguardTutorial.apk");
delete("/system/app/InteractiveTutorial.apk");
#===
# J
#===
#===
# K
#===
#===
# L
#===
#===
# M
#===
delete("/system/app/ma.wanam.youtubeadaway-1.apk");
delete("/system/app/MagazineHome.apk");
delete("/system/app/Magazines.apk");
delete("/system/app/MobilePrint3.apk");
delete("/system/app/MobilePrintSvc_CUPS.apk");
delete("/system/app/MobilePrintSvc_CUPS_Backend.apk");
delete("/system/app/MobilePrintSvc_Epson.apk");
delete("/system/app/MobilePrintSvc_HP.apk");
delete("/system/app/MobilePrintSvc_Samsung.apk");
delete("/system/app/MobilePrintSvc_WFDS.apk");
delete("/system/app/MobileTrackerEngineTwo.apk");
delete("/system/app/Music2.apk");
delete("/system/app/MusicLiveShare2.apk");
delete("/system/app/MusicPlayerWT.apk");
#===
# N
#===
delete("/system/app/NfcTest.apk");
delete("/system/app/NotificationToggle.apk");
delete("/system/app/NotificationWidget.apk");
#===
# O
#===
delete("/system/app/org.jtb.alogcat.apk");
#===
# P
#===
delete("/system/app/PanningTryActually.apk");
delete("/system/app/PartnerBookmarksProvider.apk");
delete("/system/app/pavel.ugo.cpumonitor4.apk");
delete("/system/app/Peel.apk");
delete("/system/app/PhotoTable.apk");
delete("/system/app/PickUpTutorial.apk");
delete("/system/app/PlayGames.apk");
delete("/system/app/PlusOne.apk");
delete("/system/app/PolarisViewer5.apk");
delete("/system/app/PreloadInstaller.apk");
#===
# Q
#===
delete("/system/app/QuickMemoCover.apk");
delete("/system/app/QuickMemoWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/QuickOffice.apk");
#===
# R
#===
#===
# S
#===
delete("/system/app/SamsungAppsWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/SamsungContentsAgent.apk");
delete("/system/app/SamsungHub.apk");
delete("/system/app/SamsungHub_land.apk");
delete("/system/app/SamsungHubUpdater.apk");
delete("/system/app/SamsungHubUpdater_fHD.apk");
delete("/system/app/SamsungIME.apk");
delete("/system/app/SamsungWatchON.apk");
delete("/system/app/SamsungWidget_ActiveApplication.apk");
delete("/system/app/sCloudBackupApp.apk");
delete("/system/app/sCloudDataRelay.apk");
delete("/system/app/sCloudDataSync.apk");
delete("/system/app/sCloudQuotaApp.apk");
delete("/system/app/sCloudSyncCalendar.apk");
delete("/system/app/sCloudSyncContacts.apk");
delete("/system/app/sCloudSyncSBrowser.apk");
delete("/system/app/sCloudSyncSNote3.apk");
delete("/system/app/SecEmail_J.apk");
delete("/system/app/SecExchange.apk");
delete("/system/app/SecFactoryPhoneTest.apk");
delete("/system/app/SecQuickMemo.apk");
delete("/system/app/SecQuickMemoApp.apk");
delete("/system/app/ServiceModeApp_RIL.apk");
delete("/system/app/ShareShotService.apk");
delete("/system/app/SignatureLock.apk");
delete("/system/app/SmartClipProvider.apk");
delete("/system/app/SmartClipService.apk");
delete("/system/app/SNameCard.apk");
delete("/system/app/SNote3.apk");
delete("/system/app/SPlanner.apk");
delete("/system/app/SPlannerAppWidget.apk");
delete("/system/app/SPlanner_2013.apk");
delete("/system/app/SPlannerAppWidget_2013.apk");
delete("/system/app/SPrintSpooler.apk");
delete("/system/app/stericson.busybox.apk");
delete("/system/app/Stk.apk");
delete("/system/app/Street.apk");
delete("/system/app/SViewCoverService.apk");
#===
# T
#===
delete("/system/app/talkback.apk");
delete("/system/app/TravelService.apk");
#===
# U
#===
delete("/system/app/UserDictionaryProvider.apk");
#===
# V
#===
delete("/system/app/VideoEditor_Lite_H.apk");
delete("/system/app/Videos.apk");
delete("/system/app/VoiceNote.apk");
delete("/system/app/VoiceNote4H.apk");
#===
# W
#===
delete("/system/app/WeatherWidgetDaemon.apk");
delete("/system/app/WebManual.apk");
delete("/system/app/WlanTest.apk");
#===
# X
#===
#===
# Y
#===
delete("/system/app/YahoostockPhone2013.apk");
delete("/system/app/YouTube.apk");
#===
# Z
#===
ui_print("~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~");
ui_print("Removing /priv-apps...");
ui_print("~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~");
#===
# A
#===
#===
# B
#===
#===
# C
#===
delete("/system/priv-app/CloudAgent.apk");
#===
# D
#===
delete("/system/priv-app/DeviceTest.apk");
#===
# E
#===
delete("/system/priv-app/EasyLauncher.apk");
#===
# F
#===
delete("/system/priv-app/FmmDM.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/FmmDS.apk");
#===
# G
#===
delete("/system/priv-app/GalaxyFinder.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/GoogleFeedback.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/GroupPlay_25.apk");
#===
# H
#===
delete("/system/priv-app/Hangouts.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/Hearingdro.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/HwModuleTest.apk");
#===
# I
#===
#===
# J
#===
#===
# K
#===
delete("/system/priv-app/Kies.apk");
#===
# L
#===
#===
# M
#===
#===
# N
#===
delete("/system/priv-app/NoiseField.apk");
#===
# O
#===
#===
# P
#===
delete("/system/priv-app/PageBuddyNotiSvc2.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/PCWClientS18.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/PhaseBeam.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/PhotoRetouching_FHD_H.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/PhotoRetouching_H.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/Pinboard.apk");
#===
# Q
#===
#===
# R
#===
#===
# S
#===
delete("/system/priv-app/S_Translator_CSLi_STUB.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SamsungApps.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SamsungApps_H.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SamsungLink18.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SamsungVideo.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SamsungVideo_H.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/sCloudBackupProvider.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SecCalendarProvider.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SecVideoList.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SecVideoListUpg.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SecVideoPlayer.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SecVideoPlayerUpg.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SensorService2_5.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/serviceModeApp_FB.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SharedStorageBackup.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/ShareVideo.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SHealth2_5.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SimpleWidget.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SketchBookStub.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SNS.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SPPPushClient_Dev.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SPPPushClient_Prod.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/StoryAlbumStubActivation.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/StoryAlbumStubActivationUpgrade.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/StoryAlbumWidget.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SyncmlDM.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/SyncmlDS.apk");
#===
# T
#===
delete("/system/priv-app/Tag.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/TrimmApp_phone_J.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/TripAdvisor.apk");
delete("/system/priv-app/TripAdvisor_Stub.apk");
#===
# U
#===
#===
# V
#===
delete("/system/priv-app/Velvet.apk");
#===
# W
#===
#===
# X
#===
#===
# Y
#===
#===
# Z
#===
ui_print(" ");
ui_print("~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~");
ui_print("Deleting Folders & Mics...");
ui_print(" ");
#======
#Addons
#======
#AllShare
ui_print("- Removing AllShare");
delete("/system/lib/libasf_fileshareserver.so");
delete("/system/lib/libasf_mediaserver.so");
delete("/system/lib/libasf_mediashare.so");
delete("/system/lib/libASP15_ffmpeg_neon.so");
delete("/system/lib/libASP15_Security.so");
delete("/system/lib/libASP15_TMI_Player.so");
delete("/system/lib/libASP15_TMI_Player_dep_jb2.so");
delete("/system/lib/libASP15_TMI_Player_ics.so");
delete("/system/lib/libASP15_TMI_Player_jb2.so");
delete("/system/lib/libASP15_transcoder_jni.so");
delete("/system/lib/libASP18_transcoder_jni_jb2.so");
delete("/system/lib/libSecFileClientUnit.so");
#Chrome
ui_print("- Removing Chrome");
delete("/system/lib/libchromeview.so");
#ChatOn
ui_print("- Removing ChatOn");
delete("/system/lib/libAMSWiFiLibs-1.0.6.so");
delete("/system/lib/libChatOnAMSImageFilterLibs-1.0.2.so");
delete("/system/lib/libdmcFaceEngineWithGaze.so");
delete("/system/lib/libEX_Engine5ex3.so");
delete("/system/lib/libFaceEmotionlib.so");
delete("/system/lib/libpjsip_jni_JBP.so");
delete("/system/lib/libpjsip_jni_JBP_4_3.so");
delete("/system/lib/libpolarisexternel3.so");
delete("/system/lib/libpolarisexternel3SDK.so");
delete("/system/lib/libPSI.so");
delete("/system/lib/librtp.so");
delete("/system/lib/librtppayload.so");
delete("/system/lib/librtpreorder.so");
delete("/system/lib/libSamsungAudioEngine_JBP.so");
delete("/system/lib/libSamsungAudioEngine_JBP_4_3.so");
delete("/system/lib/libSamsungMediaEngineRecorder_JBP.so");
delete("/system/lib/libSamsungMediaEngineRecorder_JBP_43.so");
delete("/system/lib/libsamsung_videoengine_JBP.so");
delete("/system/lib/libsamsung_videoengine_JBP_43.so");
delete("/system/lib/libsisosrtp.so");
delete("/system/lib/libstylize.so");
#Earth
ui_print("- Removing Earth");
delete("/system/lib/libearthandroid.so");
delete("/system/lib/libearthmobile.so");
#Facebook
ui_print("- Removing Facebook");
delete("/system/lib/libcryptox.so");
delete("/system/lib/libfb.so");
delete("/system/lib/libfb_breakpad_client.so");
delete("/system/lib/libfb_cpucapabilities.so");
delete("/system/lib/libfb_crypto.so");
delete("/system/lib/libfb_dalvik-internals.so");
delete("/system/lib/libfb_filesystem.so");
delete("/system/lib/libfbjni.so");
delete("/system/lib/libfb_jpegcodec.so");
delete("/system/lib/libfb_jpegturbo.so");
delete("/system/lib/libfb_stl_shared.so");
delete("/system/lib/libfb_tracker.so");
delete("/system/lib/libmozgluelinker.so");
delete("/system/lib/libpeanut.so");
delete("/system/lib/libreflex.so");
delete("/system/lib/libreflex-jni.so");
delete("/system/lib/libstopmotion.so");
delete("/system/lib/libwebp.so");
#Facelock
ui_print("- Removing Facelock");
delete("/system/lib/libfacelock_jni.so");
delete_recursive("/system/vendor/pittpatt/models/detection/multi_pose_face_landmark_detectors.7");
delete_recursive("/system/vendor/pittpatt/models/detection/yaw_roll_face_detectors.6");
delete_recursive("/system/vendor/pittpatt/models/recognition");
#GooglePlus
ui_print("- Removing GooglePlus");
delete("/system/lib/libfacetracker.so");
delete("/system/lib/libfilterframework_jni.so");
delete("/system/lib/libfrsdk.so");
delete("/system/lib/libmoviemaker-jni.so");
delete("/system/lib/libnetjni.so");
delete("/system/lib/libplus_jni_v8.so");
delete("/system/lib/librs.antblur.so");
delete("/system/lib/librs.antblur_constant.so");
delete("/system/lib/librs.antblur_drama.so");
delete("/system/lib/librs.drama.so");
delete("/system/lib/librs.film_base.so");
delete("/system/lib/librs.fixedframe.so");
delete("/system/lib/librs.grey.so");
delete("/system/lib/librs.image_wrapper.so");
delete("/system/lib/librs.retrolux.so");
delete("/system/lib/librsjni.so");
delete("/system/lib/libRSSupport.so");
delete("/system/lib/libwebp_android.so");
#GoogleSearch
ui_print("- Removing GoogleSearch");
delete("/system/lib/libgoogle_recognizer_jni_l.so");
delete("/system/lib/libvcdecoder_jni.so");
#GroupPlay
ui_print("- Removing GroupPlay");
delete("/system/lib/libCollageEngine.so");
delete("/system/lib/libmagnet.so");
delete("/system/lib/libpolarisofficedump.so");
#Hangouts
ui_print("- Removing Hangouts");
delete("/system/lib/libvideochat_jni.so");
#iWnnIME
ui_print("- Removing iWnnIME");
delete("/system/lib/libiwnn.so");
#Kies
ui_print("- Removing Kies");
delete_recursive("/system/etc/kies");
#MobilePrint
ui_print("- Removing MobilePrint");
delete("/system/lib/libescpr.so");
delete("/system/lib/libhpbsnmp.so");
delete("/system/lib/libhpcurl.so");
delete("/system/lib/libhpexpat.so");
delete("/system/lib/libhpmpcrypto.so");
delete("/system/lib/libhpmpssl.so");
delete("/system/lib/libimage.so");
delete("/system/lib/libioshpmp.so");
delete("/system/lib/libioshpmpbsnmp.so");
delete("/system/lib/libioshpmpcrypto.so");
delete("/system/lib/libioshpmpcups.so");
delete("/system/lib/libioshpmpcurl.so");
delete("/system/lib/libioshpmpexpat.so");
delete("/system/lib/libioshpmp_jpeg.so");
delete("/system/lib/libioshpmp_png.so");
delete("/system/lib/libioshpmpReaderEngine.so");
delete("/system/lib/libioshpmpssl.so");
delete("/system/lib/libioshpmpSupport.so");
delete("/system/lib/libioshpmpViewBridge.so");
delete("/system/lib/libSamsungPDLComposer_MD2.so");
delete("/system/lib/libwfds.so");
delete("/system/lib/libwfdscrypto.so");
delete("/system/lib/libwfdscups.so");
delete("/system/lib/libwfdsjpeg.so");
delete("/system/lib/libwfdspng.so");
delete("/system/lib/libwfdsssl.so");
delete("/system/lib/libwprint.so");
delete("/system/lib/libwprintplugin_pcl.so");
delete("/system/lib/libwprintSupport.so");
#OpticalReader
ui_print("- Removing OpticalReader");
delete_recursive("/system/opticalreader");
#PolarisViewer
ui_print("- Removing PolarisViewer");
delete("/system/lib/libpolarisviewer5.so");
delete("/system/lib/libpolarisofficedump.so");
#SamsungHub
ui_print("- Removing SamsungHub");
delete("/system/lib/libAppAuthCore.so");
delete("/system/lib/libAppAuthWrapper.so");
delete("/system/lib/libgnustl_shared.so");
delete("/system/lib/libHSV.so");
delete("/system/lib/libobe.so");
delete("/system/lib/libpdf.so");
delete("/system/lib/libppeffect.so");
delete("/system/lib/libppeffectEGLH.so");
delete("/system/lib/libSDRMCoreRH.so");
delete("/system/lib/libSDRMInvLH.so");
delete("/system/lib/libSDRMInvRH.so");
delete("/system/lib/libSecAndroidPdfCipher.so");
delete("/system/lib/libSmartEduDrmCoreEGLH.so");
delete("/system/lib/libSPenGesture.so");
delete("/system/lib/libSPenSDKImageFilterLibs.so");
delete("/system/lib/libxsync-keygen.so");
#SamsungUpdate
ui_print("- Removing SamsungUpdate");
delete("/system/lib/libdprw.so");
#SHealth
ui_print("- Removing SHealth");
delete("/system/lib/libapp_BaiduMapApplib_v2_1_2.so");
delete("/system/lib/libBarcodeDecoderPacked.so");
delete("/system/lib/libhealth_jni.so");
delete("/system/lib/libload_strings.so");
delete("/system/lib/liblocSDK4.so");
delete("/system/lib/libvi_voslib.so");
#WatchOn
ui_print("- Removing WatchOn");
delete("/system/lib/libCSP.so");
delete("/system/lib/libDPlayer.so");
delete("/system/lib/libffmpeg.so");
delete("/system/lib/libJNI_MetMW.so");
delete("/system/lib/libKEYMGR.so");
delete("/system/lib/libRemoteApi.so");
delete("/system/lib/libUPnP.so");
ui_print("~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~");
#0000
ui_print(" ");
ui_print("~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~");
ui_print("Removing a lil bit more o_o...");
ui_print("~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~");
delete_recursive("/system/media/video");
delete_recursive("/system/lost+found");
delete_recursive("/system/preloaddata");
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